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(Morris) In Reading?

In Reading, yes, in Reading. Quite amusing really, I was very shy, very shy in those days, [laughs] you know,... Read more.

(Morris) And what are your memories of Ireland?

Well yes I grew up there well I ... we had a ... it was lovely really growing up in... Read more.

(Riaz) What were the bad experiences that you had?

Bad experiences? [Interviewer: Yes] Well, I wouldn't call it bad but, yes, it was disappointing. I applied to two hundred... Read more.

(Riaz) OK, when you came to England did your impression change from the one that you had before you came into this country?

Ah [pause] ... yes and no. Because there weren't many people and unfortunately the people who came before me [pause]... Read more.

(Riaz) Two brothers?

And it was important. As a matter of fact let me tell you here something. I had admission here because... Read more.

(Riaz) OK and what was your mother's profession?

My mother was a housewife basically and ... she was always busy together with the assistants, the ladies which she... Read more.

(Riaz) What was your father's profession?

My father use to work for Inland Revenue. He was their officer ... before then he was in Police and... Read more.

(Jones) What was the name of the company?

CF Taylor ... Molly Millars Lane Wokingham.... Read more.

(Jones) Tell me about that?

I went over to Caversham, Caversham Road. I can't remember the name of the company now I remember that. And... Read more.

(Jones) So you went from there you were saying about being a metal polisher.

Yeah.... Read more.

(Jones) What kind of thing did you do? How did you, how did they make the bread then, was it bread cakes?

Yeah it was all type, there was all types ... I was in the bread department then but the cakes... Read more.

(Jones) Tell, just describe what the working day was like?

If you do you have to do eight hours a day in those days ... plus overtime if you want... Read more.

(Jones) What did you do in the bakery then? What was your job?

In the bakery? I for what you call a handyman. I used to do the shift, I used to relief,... Read more.

(Jones) What did you do next? You said you were there for eight months.

I leaved there and I went to work at the bakery. The Court Bakery that was in Grovelands Road. All... Read more.

(Jones) And did, what happened then?

I got a job there. I worked there for about eight months I think.... Read more.

(Jones) Huntley, Bourne & Stevens? Southampton Street?

Yeah. All that buildings and things there? That used to be a big factory there that was called Huntley, Bourne... Read more.

(Jones) Whereabouts was that?

That was just up up London Road here, at the back. I think that closed down now. And the other... Read more.

(Jones) And what was your impression when you arrived in Reading?

When I first looked in and ... When we was coming into England I see all those houses with the... Read more.

(Jones) In the in the what?

In the fire brigade, that was a police department as well ... the fire service. And, I decided well while... Read more.

(Browne) So, you ... tell me you were doing this night shift for all these years, did that mean that you had to sleep in the day then?

Yes ... I come in in the morning, depends of how tired I am, I will go to bed for,... Read more.

(Browne) And where was your husband working was he working as?

No, he in those days then he had went back to Barbados, so I was live alone with the kids.... Read more.

(Browne) So what, what time did you start then on the night shift?

The, nights they start at eight, until eight in the morning but what I used to do I wouldn't have... Read more.

(Browne) Where was St Marks hospital?

Maidenhead, yeah, travel from here to Maidenhead every night, like I said from the time I was there I done... Read more.

(Browne) Did they give you training? ... While you were working there?

You used to go to Henley to do your training but at the same time when that batch was going... Read more.

(Browne) What did you do there?

I was an assistant nurse in those days called orderly or auxiliary nurse. I work on the admission ward and... Read more.

(Browne) What sort of hours did you work there?

I used to work, we start at half past seven, until one for lunch and then you finish at five.... Read more.

(Browne) You said you were working at Huntley, Bourne and Stevens? Tell me what you did on that job?

Oh all bits of things, used to cut the, there were machines and you used to put these sheets of... Read more.

(Browne) Where was this in Reading, Grace?

Edges Street, 17 Edges Street. Yeah and then I lived there but I wasn't very happy to be truthful. She... Read more.

(Browne) And what did he do?

He a joiner, used to make chairs, yes well, we say a cabinet maker here.... Read more.

(Browne) How did you meet your husband?

Ah when I met my husband at a funeral, I been a friend of mine had died, and I been... Read more.

(Browne) So you left school when you were fifteen or sixteen, what, tell me what you did next?

Well ... first I used to go to a music lesson, but I didn't keep that up and then I... Read more.

(Malhotra) Was it, did it become better as more ... Asian people came, for you or ... ?

I have been lucky neither at work, well apart from one or two incidents that ... now I can laugh... Read more.

(Malhotra) So you, how long were you working there then?

I think after that I worked twenty two years.... Read more.

(Malhotra) How did you find out about that job?

It was advertised in the paper you know and ... good job. You asked this thing because I, in those... Read more.

(Malhotra) Where did you work?

I worked with Department of Transport. I have financial knowledge so I have got in the finance department.... Read more.

(Malhotra) So where was your husband's job?

At Ministry of Agriculture ... He was working as a scientist there.... Read more.

(Malhotra) How did you travel to Britain?

By air, yeah we both came by air, did my husband came by Japan Airlines and I came by Air... Read more.

(RBrowne) So how did you deal with cold, coming from such a hot country and what month was it, you said it was snowing?

February, February. Very next morning I get up I see snow out there. I didn't know what it was and... Read more.

(RBrowne) And you were happy with what you got?

Oh yeah. And I used to do a lot of weekend work, do anything. We used to do Ascot heaters... Read more.

(RBrowne) You were working on your own then, in your own business?

No. You work for a company. But the company used to say, well OK you get say, what we call... Read more.

(RBrowne) Must have been a good wage for a plumber then?

Oh yeah. That was good wages then. For a plumber, about £12 - £15. Lots of jobs then used to... Read more.

(RBrowne) And for the people working a Huntley & Palmers? What sort of money?

Huntley & Palmers? Oh the women never got much, much wages, they never got much. They were only making biscuits... Read more.

(RBrowne) Did you have difficulty getting jobs?

No. Jobs was pretty easy to get. Once there was no problem at all getting jobs because in them days... Read more.

(RBrowne) What were you doing then?

Plumbing. In the interior we were running pipelines and it was a British company out there and I made good... Read more.

(Chigumira) If opportunity arises would you again get involved in politics in Reading?

I might say I'm very much involve in politics in certain ways because politics is not really about what you... Read more.

(Chigumira) Was that privately rented?

Yes privately rented and the rent was approximately about £600. Well looking at it, I could manage to sort of,... Read more.

(Chigumira) What year did you move back to Reading?

Because I'd arrived here in England in 2002 July and moved in to Reading in March 2003 and that's when... Read more.

(Chigumira) When you came was that the year 2000?

2002 in July. I arrived here 2002, July 28th . I got through the immigration and came and stayed in... Read more.

(Chigumira) So you, you left Mozambique for the second time, in what year did you say?

So '97 that's when I was re-called back home, went back to the Minister of Foreign Affairs again and worked... Read more.

(Chigumira) Is that Kings Road in Reading ?

Yes Kings Road in Reading, that's where I'm a member of the Methodist church. So, well we carried on after... Read more.

(Chigumira) OK so you came to Britain?

My first experience of Britain was in 1990, we came as girls, one lady from the American Embassy, one from... Read more.

(Chigumira) How old were you at that time?

I was twenty years by then, when I applied for the job to go in to the Minister of Foreign... Read more.

(Chigumira) Can you tell me where and when you were born?

I was born in Zimbabwe, but then it was called Rhodesia in a township called Mpopoma in Bulawayo on the... Read more.

(Tamang) Elaine Bradshaw? Scottish ...

Yes, yeah. She came at nine o'clock, nine till ten she used to come over. But I didn't really have... Read more.

(Tamang) Going back then, when you came to Reading and, your husband was working in the Star of India where were you living as a family?

There were four rooms above the Star of India, and after when we bought this there was rooms on top... Read more.

(Tamang) Why was, why did you give the food free?

My husband, he knew a lot of people by that time in Reading and he'd invited them all as a... Read more.

(Tamang) Was that a lot at the time or ...

At that time that was a hell of a lot of money. At that time a vegetable curry was 60p.... Read more.

(Tamang) Did you buy the English café?

At that time the café that was here they bought it for twenty five thousand. It was, can't remember exactly... Read more.

(Tamang) So this was your husband, he rented the Star of India-

So my husband went back five days later to the partnership he'd left and told them that he was leaving,... Read more.

(Tamang) So why Reading?

He'd been looking around for businesses at that time and one the businesses that was going for sale was the... Read more.

(Tamang) Tell me about coming to Reading

Five years were in Southall that's the limit of time on the work permit. After five years he told the... Read more.

(Tamang) So quite heavily pregnant, and you arrived and it was snowing in December, and what was your first impression of England?

When I came over it was snowing, it was very, very dark, very cold, and my husband came and picked... Read more.

(Tamang) Was he still studying, your husband as well?

He graduated and then stayed with the king to work. And then when my husband came back, then they bought... Read more.

(Tamang) Where did you live in Kathmandu when you got there?

We stayed in a place in Mukundo. We stayed there for four years. And then Shyam my son was born... Read more.

(Tamang) How did he get that job?

It was advertised in the paper that whoever passed their SLC which is 'school leavers certificate' which is similar to... Read more.

(Pollek) Ok. And what about your experiences while you were still working within the trade union itself, when you were still employed?

It was just a standard, nothing at all to do with my background as a Ukrainian, it was just me... Read more.

(Pollek) You said when you worked at Courage's with the Ukrainians, did you feel you were part of the Ukrainians?

No, I, no I didn't. They were, although I was eighteen, nineteen, and they would have been in their forties,... Read more.

(Pollek) You said you didn't have a proper job before?

Well it was a proper job in as much as it was a job that paid me a proper wage,... Read more.

(Pollek) What was your mother's profession?

My mother, both my mother and father were born in 1922, they were born in the Carpathian mountains, they, of... Read more.

(Pollek) What other early memories do you have of your childhood?

Well I learnt English at school, though I don't remember not being able to communicate with anybody in English, but... Read more.

(SSheikh) Did you know who this was? Was it certain people or was this kind of general? Did you know that somebody had a grudge in particular?

No I didn't know because we were, my husband was so good. At the Irish Club, my husband was the... Read more.

(SSheikh) You talked earlier about the racism that you suffered there with them throwing stones damaging the vehicles did you experience this in your life generally or was this just at the business where this happened?

It was just the business, I mean it wasn't like this happened this month and you forget about, it was... Read more.

(SSheikh) These were regular customers?

Yeah they were my regular customers and they would just say 'Can you send Shabana' you know and I would... Read more.

(SSheikh) Did you have many lady drivers?

No I was the first lady driver then we had another two lady drivers as well because there used to... Read more.

(SSheikh) What year was it when you came here?

1966. Frame Clothing moved after a year to Basingstoke Road, Bennett Road so that got tough that's when the bus... Read more.

(SSheikh) What was the job?

The same this refrigeration and I said to him 'Try you know you might got a nice job,' so he... Read more.

(SSheikh) What time of year was that?

Well it was in late March, it was freezing, I was so cold and you know when you are young... Read more.

(Sheikh) So you're at Bisley and then how long were you there?

Eight years. But this is where I got my first challenge. A person, RC, I remember that bastard, sorry about... Read more.

(Sheikh) Where did you live then?

In the quarters. We were not allowed to buy house in those days. You must live in the quarter next... Read more.

(Sheikh) Where was your wife?

She was in Birmingham. She stayed, and that is the only person whom I still consider as a very, very... Read more.

(Sheikh) So you land at Heathrow. [yeah] And what did you do?

My father's partner had a cousin living in London, used to be a bus driver and fortunately he was there... Read more.

(Sheikh) And how did you travel here?

Flew. Oh they allow you enough money to fly. And there's £300 of your money the rest is mine. That's... Read more.

(Sheikh) What sort of things were you involved in?

Mostly it was ... just general patrol in the car. We were armed of course in those days with 38... Read more.

(Ling) What do you think of Reading, as a place? Why did you move to Reading?

Because my husband got another job and also I got a job. It is easier for us to come here.... Read more.

(Ling) When you first arrived in the UK, early on you'd been worried about him going and being 'corrupted', that's the word you used, how did you find life in the UK?

Life in the UK. It's ... compared to ... I don't really think it's a better life for me. It's... Read more.

(Ling) So when did you come to Reading?

Two year, Two and half years ago. I lived in Newbury for four years. After my husband graduated, he got... Read more.

(Ling) And how long were you there?

I was there three years. And after three years, I got a job just to teach at the primary... Read more.

(Ling) Did you like school?

At first I didn't. I did it because my parents worked so hard, and just like every Chinese, you know.... Read more.

(Ling) Did your mother work?

No. She worked in the land. But after that ... you know, she doesn't work.... Read more.

(Ling) Craft is making something.

Ye. Making something. He can make table, chairs. Like carpenter, but like cabinet maker, we might say. He design things... Read more.

(Ling) My father is a craftsman. He taught himself to draw, you know, painting, craft this kind of thing. He is very clever.

Crafts, craft, crafts.... Read more.

(Ling) What did your father do?

My father is a craftsman. He taught himself to draw, you know, painting, craft this kind of thing. He is... Read more.

(Graham-Paul) Can I just take you back...So Cyril was your husband?

Yes. Children's father. Anyway, got here and ... started to go to Reading Technical College ... and ... I wanted... Read more.

(Graham-Paul) You're just talking about some differences there ... culture shock differences ... what sort of thing do you mean?

What I meant is ... is the way people are sort of ... they look at you and because you... Read more.

(Graham-Paul) When did you leave the ... Senior School?

I left school, so then I started doing [pause] private work as well as shorthand and typing, we call it... Read more.

(Fappiano) What do you remember, in particular about your childhood as you were growing up in Italy?

Well I remember most everything. I think I said, mentioned in the second interview that soon after the war it... Read more.

(Fappiano) Can you relay to me your experiences as a child?

Well as a child I was born during the Second World War and then after the war it was a... Read more.

(Patyra) Right. What sort of things did you do?

Biscuits. First of all I was mixing the dough and then in the oven and goodness knows what and that's... Read more.

(Patyra) So you got the job. What do you do at Huntley & Palmers? Tell me something about Huntley & Palmers

I was just ordinary labourer.... Read more.

(Patyra) That was your first job in Reading?

Yes.... Read more.

(Patyra) Played whatever?

Yes. Whatever it was. And so from that we went with the Polish theatre all over England, Wales and Scotland.... Read more.

(Szopis) Where did you get the job in Woodley?

In school. I'm a teacher. [laughs] Yes it was Beechwood Infant School. Then my career went from Beechwood Infants to... Read more.

(Szopis) Where did you meet your husband?

I met my husband in Lebanon, actually in Persia first time because then he went to the, to Palestine, was... Read more.

(Szopis) What year was that?

[laughing] Don't ask me. Fifty years ago I see 'fifty-five. 1955 and at the end of it all my headmistress... Read more.

(Szopis) So from Leicester College where did you go then?

To Birmingham. My first school was in Birmingham in Harbourne and it was, I do remember I was accepted by... Read more.

(Cam) So, you did mental training as well or just part of health visiting?

I'm just doing the in-house and I'm just transferring my skills that I've learned along health visiting because I was... Read more.

(Cam) So are you retired yet?

Well, I'm still doing the three days for the health authority, but not health visiting this time. I'm doing primary... Read more.

(Cam) So, what happened with your plans?

Well, in 1969, I was on Rushey Ward. I was in my second year actually, the end of my second... Read more.

(Cam) Did you take a trip back there during your student days?

No, I couldn't afford ... In fact, I worked my socks off. I used to work at the cinema, at... Read more.

(Cam) Tell me something about your first winter.

My first winter actually wasn't bad because I was expecting the worse. I hadn't known anything else so everybody kept... Read more.

(Cam) So you said something about nursing. You came here to do nursing. So did you start your nursing in South Africa?

Yes, I did do auxiliary nursing because I really did want to do medicine. But because being orphaned in South... Read more.

(Bajric) What job roughly were, what job were you looking for?

OK. I was looking usually for simple job, not much. I was looking to do to work in shops, I... Read more.

(Bajric) What work were you doing during the day?

I was doing painting decorating houses and all building work, my employer, ordered me to do. I have to do... Read more.

(Bajric) Which religion were you before?

I never follow it, I was free man you know. But I was born ... I was born like Bosnian... Read more.

(Bajric) You spoke about the war ...

Yes ... and first I have to say where I used to work. I was Professor of History and Latin... Read more.